Former DHS official Elizabeth Neumann saw both the mafia culture up close, and Trump's disinterest in doing the work of being president. He also exploits the rising extremism in the evangelical church. Stay tuned for part 2 of today's show with former Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan! Elizabeth's new book, "Kingdom of Rage: The Rise Of Christian Extremism And The Path Back to Peace.”: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/elizabeth-neumann/kingdom-of-rage/9781546002055/?lens=worthy 0:00 - Intro 1:28 - Elizabeth Neumann’s Experience in the Trump White House 4:40 - Why Many in Trump Administration Haven’t Spoken Out 6:26 - The Rise of Right-Wing Extremism in DHS 9:27 - Neumann’s Book ‘Kingdom of Rage’ 17:16 - How Individuals Get Radicalized 20:55 - Helping Christian Extremists Move Away from Extremism 25:37 - The Threats of Extremism on Both Sides 28:39- Biggest Concerns of a Trump 2.0 Send your mailbag questions here: BulwarkPodcast@TheBulwark.com Join Sarah, Tim and JVL on May 15 in D.C. with the George Conway. For information and tickets head to https://TheBulwark.com/events 🔥 Get 30 days of Bulwark+ absolutely free: https://thebulwark.com/freetrial ------ 🚨 Want to listen without ads? Join Bulwark+ for an exclusive ad-free version of The Bulwark Podcast. For a limited time, we're offering 30 days completely free: https://thebulwark.com/freetrial The Bulwark Podcast: Tim Miller and guests discuss the latest news from inside Washington and around the world. No shouting, grandstanding, or sloganeering. Conservative, conscientious, and civil. Browse episodes and add The Bulwark Podcast to your podcast client of choice: https://www.thebulwark.com/s/bulwarkpodcast